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    North Korea vows nuclear strike against U.S.







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    SEOUL, SOUTH KOREANorth Korea on Thursday vowed to launch a pre-emptive nuclear strike against the United States, amplifying its threatening rhetoric hours ahead of a scheduled vote by U.N. diplomats on whether to level new sanctions against Pyongyang for its recent nuclear test.
    An unidentified spokesman for Pyongyang's Foreign Ministry said the North will exercise its right for "a preemptive nuclear attack to destroy the strongholds of the aggressors" because Washington is pushing to start a nuclear war against the North.
    Although North Korea boasts of nuclear bombs and preemptive strikes, it is not thought to have mastered the ability to produce a warhead small enough to put on a missile capable of reaching the U.S. It is believed to have enough nuclear fuel, however, for several crude nuclear devices.


    Such inflammatory rhetoric is common from North Korea, and especially so in recent days. North Korea is angry over the possible sanctions and over upcoming U.S.-South Korean military drills. At a mass rally in Pyongyang on Thursday, tens of thousands of North Koreans protested the U.S.-South Korean war drills and sanctions.
    All 15 of the U.N. Security Council's members voted to impose a fourth round of sanctions against Pyongyang in a fresh attempt to rein in its nuclear and ballistic missile programs.
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    The resolution was drafted by the United States and China, North Korea's closest ally.
    The statement by the North Korean Foreign Ministry spokesman was carried by the North's official Korean Central News Agency.
    It accused the U.S. of leading efforts to slap sanctions on North Korea. The statement said the new sanctions would only advance the timing for North Korea to fulfill previous vows to take "powerful second and third countermeasures" against its enemies. It hasn't elaborated on those measures.
    The statement said North Korea "strongly warns the U.N. Security Council not to make another big blunder like the one in the past when it earned the inveterate grudge of the Korean nation by acting as a war servant for the U.S. in 1950."
    North Korea demanded the U.N. Security Council immediately dismantle the American-led U.N. Command that's based in Seoul and move to end the state of war that exists on the Korean Peninsula, which continues six decades after fighting stopped because an armistice, not a peace treaty, ended the war.
    In anticipation of the resolution's adoption, North Korea earlier in the week threatened to cancel the 1953 cease-fire that ended the Korean War.
    North Korean threats have become more common as tensions have escalated following a rocket launch by Pyongyang in December and its third nuclear test on Feb. 12. Both acts defied three Security Council resolutions that bar North Korea from testing or using nuclear or ballistic missile technology and from importing or exporting material for these programs.
    U.S. U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice said the resolution as proposed would impose some of the strongest sanctions ever ordered by the United Nations.
    The final version of the draft resolution, released Wednesday, identified three individuals, one corporation and one organization that would be added to the U.N. sanctions list if the measure is approved.
    The targets include top officials at a company that is the country's primary arms dealer and main exporter of ballistic missile-related equipment, and a national organization responsible for research and development of missiles and probably nuclear weapons.
    The success of a new round of sanctions could depend on enforcement by China, where most of the companies and banks that North Korea is believed to work with are based.
    The United States and other nations worry that North Korea's third nuclear test pushed it closer to its goal of gaining nuclear missiles that can reach the U.S. The international community has condemned the regime's nuclear and missile efforts as threats to regional security and a drain on the resources that could go to North Korea's largely destitute people.
    The draft resolution condemns the latest nuclear test "in the strongest terms" for violating and flagrantly disregarding council resolutions, bans further ballistic missile launches, nuclear tests "or any other provocation," and demands that North Korea return to the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty. It also condemns all of North Korea's ongoing nuclear activities, including its uranium enrichment.
    But the proposed resolution stresses the council's commitment "to a peaceful, diplomatic and political solution" and urged a resumption of six-party talks with the aim of denuclearizing the Korean Peninsula "in a peaceful manner."
    The proposed resolution would make it significantly harder for North Korea to move around the funds it needs to carry out its illicit programs and strengthen existing sanctions and the inspection of suspect cargo bound to and from the country. It would also ban countries from exporting specific luxury goods to the North, including yachts, luxury automobiles, racing cars, and jewelry with semi-precious and precious stones and precious metals.
    According to the draft, all countries would now be required to freeze financial transactions or services that could contribute to North Korea's nuclear or missile programs.
    To get around financial sanctions, North Koreans have been carrying around large suitcases filled with cash to move illicit funds. The draft resolution expresses concern that these bulk cash transfers may be used to evade sanctions. It clarifies that the freeze on financial transactions and services that could violate sanctions applies to all cash transfers as well as the cash couriers.
    The proposed resolution also bans all countries from providing public financial support for trade deals, such as granting export credits, guarantees or insurance, if the assistance could contribute to the North's nuclear or missile programs.
    It includes what a senior diplomat called unprecedented new travel sanctions that would require countries to expel agents working for sanctioned North Korean companies.
    The draft also requires states to inspect suspect cargo on their territory and prevent any vessel that refuses an inspection from entering their ports. And a new aviation measure calls on states to deny aircraft permission to take off, land or fly over their territory if illicit cargo is suspected to be aboard.

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    China needs to smack them
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    They would never pull the trigger. You know why? Cus that fat fuck young leader is living the life now that he's in charge, and if he ever did pull something, he'd be dead. He knows he has it good. His people don't, but he does. He's not that stupid.

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    Shoulda sent Metta World Peace over

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    Interesting Read on EMP's and North Korea

    http://www.viewzone.com/emp.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by xyzky View Post
    Interesting Read on EMP's and North Korea

    http://www.viewzone.com/emp.html
    EMPs worked for Cheadle and the gang in Ocean's 11.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xyzky View Post
    Interesting Read on EMP's and North Korea

    http://www.viewzone.com/emp.html
    thats some scary shit right there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cogenman View Post
    They would never pull the trigger. You know why? Cus that fat fuck young leader is living the life now that he's in charge, and if he ever did pull something, he'd be dead. He knows he has it good. His people don't, but he does. He's not that stupid.
    he doesn't have to be stupid. He only has to be crazy.

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    fictionalization of that precise issue.

    http://www.frugalsquirrels.com/ficti...htsout1-10.pdf

    Light's Out is a lot longer than 10 chapters, though...meh. A lot of the practical matters one would face are addressed...though perhaps not quite realistically because we don't have a real basis to go off of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redbearde View Post
    he doesn't have to be stupid. He only has to be crazy.
    True. But I don't think he's crazy. It's all a bluff IMO. If there's anybody who will use a nuclear bomb IMO is probably Iran on Israel. The hatred of Jews in the middle east is huge, then throw in religion and you have a volatile situation that's ready to explode.

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    thing is, the muslims don't want Jerusalem nuked, and the Jews don't really, either. I don't doubt for an instant that if Israel was about to be overrun by conventional warfare that they would toss off *all* of their operational nukes. Mecca and every surrounding nation will get fucked, particularly whoever was the perceived aggressor that time.

    I don't really think the NK leaders really want to nuke the US. You're probably right about it being a bluff and/or a request for a[nother] payoff. And if there's one thing the world has learned in dealing with the US over the last few decades (and 12 years), it's when we get pissed off, they *really* don't want to be in our crosshairs. But would North Korea invade South Korea? I think they would very much like to. They have very little to lose, and having nukes prepositioned in cities around the US (forget about ICBMs, they can be shipped here) would go a long way toward making sure we didn't nuke them to stop their invasion.

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    Amazing how unequal this is. I mean, the US and North Korea have been at odds over almost nothing substantial for more than 60 years now and still battle over words and semantics. But if this were to come down to a war between us, consider this:
    One of these two countries has a leader that is young and inexperienced, is only in power because of a personality cult populated by millions of people who actually worship him in ways that citizens of a free society cannot imagine; who has unlimited and unrestricted power over the machinery of government, the military and all state resources, but tends to use those all for purposes related to his narcissism while his people continue to suffer in ever worsening conditions, almost assuring that any military actions would be a disaster under his leadership.
    The other country is North Korea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by consilience View Post
    Amazing how unequal this is. I mean, the US and North Korea have been at odds over almost nothing substantial for more than 60 years now and still battle over words and semantics. But if this were to come down to a war between us, consider this:
    One of these two countries has a leader that is young and inexperienced, is only in power because of a personality cult populated by millions of people who actually worship him in ways that citizens of a free society cannot imagine; who has unlimited and unrestricted power over the machinery of government, the military and all state resources, but tends to use those all for purposes related to his narcissism while his people continue to suffer in ever worsening conditions, almost assuring that any military actions would be a disaster under his leadership.
    The other country is North Korea.
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    i also see what you did there, but i don't think i follow this part:

    is only in power because of a personality cult populated by millions of people who actually worship him in ways that citizens of a free society cannot imagine

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt View Post
    i also see what you did there, but i don't think i follow this part:

    is only in power because of a personality cult populated by millions of people who actually worship him in ways that citizens of a free society cannot imagine
    I think he means stuff like this:


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    Quote Originally Posted by cogenman View Post
    They would never pull the trigger. You know why? Cus that fat fuck young leader is living the life now that he's in charge, and if he ever did pull something, he'd be dead. He knows he has it good. His people don't, but he does. He's not that stupid.
    your problem is you are making a rational statement here, Cogeman. This cat is no where close to rational.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cogenman View Post
    True. But I don't think he's crazy. It's all a bluff IMO. If there's anybody who will use a nuclear bomb IMO is probably Iran on Israel. The hatred of Jews in the middle east is huge, then throw in religion and you have a volatile situation that's ready to explode.
    Been exploding for as long as there has been sand in the Middle East, bro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redbearde View Post
    I think he means stuff like this:

    Well put.

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    The North Koreans worship a fake god but they're not the only ones

    It's a shame their fake god doesn't promote secularism


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    Quote Originally Posted by Carolina Guy View Post
    Been exploding for as long as there has been sand in the Middle East, bro.



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    Sounds like North Korea is short of food again.
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    So it's Tuesday?

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    They want something, more then likely food. Grain crops have been woeful there for quite a few years, and the past winter may have made things worst. They aren't going to change and they won't ask for help. So they'll act like dickheads, then bring China, US and Japan into negotiations.

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    "Umm...reduced presence in the demilitarized zone...reduced ships in the Sea of Japan...and some food, shitloads of it, and hurry"
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    http://www.debka.com/article/22885/N...ing-facilities

    Korean tensions again shot up Tuesday, April 9, with Pyongyang’s warning of a ballistic missile firing Wednesday, April 10 toward the Pacific and advice to foreigners in the South to evacuate: “We do not wish harm on foreigners in the South should there be a war,” said the statement.

    Last week, foreign embassies were informed that North Korea would not guarantee the safety of their staffs after April 10.

    Japan has deployed Patriot missile interceptors around its defense ministry headquarters in Tokyo and other key facilities including Okinawa, in the wake of North Korea’s move last week of two intermediate- missiles to its eastern coast, placing Japan, South Korea and the US bases at Guam within range.

    In Tehran, meanwhile, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad unveiled Tuesday two additional uranium-processing facilities at Ardakan in the central province of Yazd. This was announced with the official disclosure by Iranian state TV of uranium mines operating in the town of Saghand, 120 kilometers from Ardakan, which are reported to have an estimated output of 60 tons of yellowcake for use in the uranium enrichment process.

    In case this show of defiance was lost on the West, Tehran is now threatening to follow in the footsteps of its North Korean partner and withdraw from the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty in the wake of the failure of the latest negotiations between the Islamic regime and world powers (April 5-6) in Kazakhstan.

    The meeting broke up without a date for resumption after Tehran refused outright to curb its enrichment program in exchange of the partial easing of sanctions, demanding that world powers acknowledge the Islamic Republic’s right to enrich uranium under the terms of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT).

    To underline this refusal, Alaeddin Boroujerdi, chairman of the Iranian parliament’s Committee for Foreign Policy and National Security, came out with this argument: There is no reason for Iran to be in compliance with the NPT and IAEA regulations when the United States and European countries “disregard its articles such as article 6 [mandating the reduction of nuclear weapons] and article 4 [Iran’s nuclear rights].” Speaking to the Fars News Agency (run by the Revolutionary Guards), Boroujerdi concluded: “Therefore, there is no reason for Iran to remain a NPT member…”

    Its exit would mean that the nuclear watchdog would no longer have monitoring access to Iran’s known nuclear sites and like North Korea, which expelled the inspectors, could carry on enriching uranium and developing its nuclear weapons program without international oversight.

    These steps, along with Pyongyang’s restart of its nuclear facilities at Yongbyon last week, will give the nuclear collaboration with Iran and North Korea a further boost.
    However, neither Washington or Jerusalem appear to show any inclination to rein in either North Korea, Iran or the dangerous ties between them. In Jerusalem, U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry said on Sunday that world powers would pursue further talks with Iran to resolve their nuclear dispute, but stressed that the process could not go on forever – which is exactly what President Barack Obama said a year ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redbearde View Post
    I think he means stuff like this:

    i thought it was simply money and corporations that elected our leader, same as every other leader we've had in recent history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt View Post
    i thought it was simply money and corporations that elected our leader, same as every other leader we've had in recent history.
    Well, if you want to go all conspiracy theory one of Obama's money supporters (the owner, not the company) was the one who tabulated the votes for the Presidency. :-)

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    i don't know that it is some big conspiracy, obama spent close to a billion dollars on his campaign. romney did too. in other words, in 2012, it cost about a billion dollars to become president. where does that money come from? who pays it? who makes an investment like that without controlling that investment and making sure they get a return on their money.

    it's emotionally comforting to say that i like this guy or i take this position and the people who take the other side are dumb or can't think for themselves so i must be smart and able to think for myself. but those are all simple mind games. the money is where it is at in our political system. the numbers don't lie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt View Post
    i don't know that it is some big conspiracy, obama spent close to a billion dollars on his campaign. romney did too. in other words, in 2012, it cost about a billion dollars to become president. where does that money come from? who pays it? who makes an investment like that without controlling that investment and making sure they get a return on their money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spooks View Post
    Textbook quote from the movie, Zeigeist: Addendum

    i think i made that up. they are probably copying me.

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