Friday 03/08/13 NBA discussion thread

[divol]

NBA BASKETBALL BASKETBALL - FRI 3/8
GAME				HANDICAP	MONEY LINE	TOTAL POINTS	MORE
Fri 3/8	801	Indiana Pacers		-9.5 1.917	1.192	Over 189.5 1.962
04:05 PM	802	Orlando Magic		+9.5 1.990	5.390	Under 189.5 1.943
Fri 3/8	803	Oklahoma City Thunder		-14 1.885	1.036	Over 202 1.952
04:05 PM	804	Charlotte Bobcats		+14 2.020	16.500	Under 202 1.952
Fri 3/8	805	Atlanta Hawks		+4.5 1.943	2.600	Over 188.5 1.926
05:00 PM	806	Boston Celtics		-4.5 1.962	1.562	Under 188.5 1.980
Fri 3/8	807	Washington Wizards		+6 1.935	3.050	Over 182.5 1.962
04:35 PM	808	Brooklyn Nets		-6 1.971	1.435	Under 182.5 1.943
Fri 3/8	809	Memphis Grizzlies		-5.5 2.010	1.476	Over 185.5 1.980
04:35 PM	810	Cleveland Cavaliers		+5.5 1.901	2.880	Under 185.5 1.926
Fri 3/8	811	Dallas Mavericks		-3.5 1.901	1.599	Over 200 1.980
04:35 PM	812	Detroit Pistons		+3.5 2.010	2.510	Under 200 1.926
Fri 3/8	813	Utah Jazz		+4 1.952	2.530	Over 185.5 1.952
05:05 PM	814	Chicago Bulls		-4 1.952	1.588	Under 185.5 1.952
Fri 3/8	815	Philadelphia 76ers		+13 1.990	11.750	Over 194.5 1.935
05:05 PM	816	Miami Heat		-13 1.917	1.063	Under 194.5 1.971
Fri 3/8	817	Portland Trail Blazers		+11.5 1.971	7.880	Over 201.5 1.980
05:35 PM	818	San Antonio Spurs		-11.5 1.935	1.114	Under 201.5 1.926
Fri 3/8	819	Phoenix Suns		+7 1.971	3.600	Over 207 1.943
07:05 PM	820	Sacramento Kings		-7 1.935	1.339	Under 207 1.962
Fri 3/8	821	Toronto Raptors		+7.5 1.926	3.770	Over 206.5 1.943
07:35 PM	822	Los Angeles Lakers		-7.5 1.980	1.317	Under 206.5 1.962
Fri 3/8	823	Houston Rockets		+2 1.943	2.120	Over 221 1.943
07:35 PM	824	Golden State Warriors		-2 1.962	1.806	Under 221 1.962

[GoIrish!]

boston, golden st, nets, pacers initial thoughts

[divol]

Golden State is the only lean so far...

[nbafan88]

biggest road spread i have seen in a while....

[aplous]

Headed to United Center tmrw night for my first live NBA action in a few years....thoughts on the line?

[nbafan88]

I'd guess bulls -7

[nbafan88]

Actually probably closer to -5. Somewhere around there.

[gynecologist]

I'll be capping all the games tomorrow... Hope we have some good discussion

[BetCrimes1984]

EC teams in Atlanta's spot have done this well the last 9 completed seasons -

EC teams playing their 2nd game back (off a 4+ game road trip) on the Road as a Dog vs Conf teams: 31-54 ATS

A 36% win rate.

[tuck321]

Very difficult decision. Hard. Very hard. Still I think my first bet will be Spurs minus 11.5.
Scary very scary. Spurs have 2 days off after the game.
33
16 Were the last 2 home margins of victory. They despise this team who was a plague to them for years and losing the last game at Portland did not help and have 2 days off after the game and their margins of victory in the last 3 home games were
28
39
18
So this is the game they slow down. WHY??

[tuck321]

Utah away on Friday

Utah away vs any opponent in any month on Friday

Date Opponent Score SU Line ATS O/U 01/25/2013 at LA Lakers 84-102 L +4.5 L U 204.5 01/11/2013 at Atlanta 95-103 L +4.5 L O 191.5 01/04/2013 at Phoenix 87-80 W +1.5 W U 198 12/14/2012 at Phoenix 84-99 L -2 L U 201 11/30/2012 at Oklahoma City 94-106 L +9 L U 201.5 11/16/2012 at Philadelphia 93-99 L +1 L O 186.5 11/09/2012 at Denver 84-104 L +5.5 L U 203 11/02/2012 at New Orleans 86-88 L -3.5 L U 191 04/13/2012 at New Orleans 85-96 L -3.5 L U 191 03/09/2012 at Philadelphia 91-104 L +7 L O 185.5 01/27/2012 at Dallas 101-116 L +5 L O 186.5 03/11/2011 at Minnesota 101-122 L +1.5 L O 207.5 Date Opponent Score SU Line ATS O/U 01/25/2013 vs. Golden State 103-87 W -2.5 W O 189 03/30/2012 vs. Detroit 83-71 W -11 W U 181.5 03/16/2012 vs. Portland 89-100 L -9 L U 194 01/27/2012 vs. Milwaukee 107-100 W -11 L O 185.5 03/25/2011 vs. Memphis 99-96 W -9 L O 188 03/11/2011 vs. Atlanta 94-76 W -7 W U 178.5 01/28/2011 vs. Orlando 99-90 W +1 W O 188.5 12/31/2010 vs. Brooklyn 90-81 W -10 L U 186.5 12/10/2010 vs. LA Lakers 88-84 W +2 W U 197.5 03/19/2010 vs. Cleveland 85-92 L +9.5 W U 206.5 02/26/2010 vs. Portland 115-111 W -3.5 W O 192.5 01/15/2010 vs. Washington 121-119 W -6 L O 198 12/11/2009 vs. Golden State 96-91 W -4.5 W U 213 03/06/2009 vs. Milwaukee 117-102 W -6.5 W O 205.5 02/20/2009 vs. Denver 116-99 W +2.5 W O 208.5 01/23/2009 vs. Toronto 94-114 L -2 L O 197.5 01/09/2009 vs. Washington 98-86 W -4.5 W U 196 11/07/2008 vs. Phoenix 100-83 W +4 W U 204.5 04/11/2008 vs. Cleveland 100-95 W +4.5 W U 196 03/14/2008 vs. Philadelphia 106-110 L -3 L O 198 Records Points

Bulls at home on Friday


Bulls at home vs Utah

Date Opponent Score SU Line ATS O/U 03/10/2012 vs. Utah 111-97 W -11 W O 192 03/12/2011 vs. Utah 118-100 W -10.5 W O 189.5 03/09/2010 vs. Utah 108-132 L +4.5 L O 206.5 12/20/2008 vs. Utah 106-98 W +2.5 W O 202 03/11/2008 vs. Utah 108-96 W +3.5 W U 213.5 01/20/2007 vs. Utah 85-95 L -6.5 L U 196 11/12/2005 vs. Utah 103-98 W -6.5 L O 178 01/07/2005 vs. Utah 84-78 W -4.5 W U 185.5 12/22/2003 vs. Utah 80-92 L 0 L U 178 01/06/2003 vs. Utah 113-98 W +5.5 W O 191.5 01/05/2002 vs. Utah 111-113 L +9 W O 179

This might or might not be a bet. Chicago obviously has been all over the map recently

[kjohnson109]

so bulls score alot of pts at home v utah on fridays?

[tuck321]

Tomorrow is Friday. Lakers have a decent record on Friday. Lakers are playing 4 in 6 after an ATS win. Sunday they play Chicago at home. Chicago has beaten them 3 in a row. I do expect the Lakers to win tomorrow as they have won 9 in a row as a favorite but might this not be a good time to bet Toronto. Lakers have failed to cover in 4 of their last 6 home wins.

[tuck321]

Atlanta playing Nets recent history

Date Opponent Score SU Line ATS O/U 01/18/2013 at Brooklyn 89-94 L +7 W U 190 01/16/2013 vs. Brooklyn 109-95 W -3 W O 186 03/23/2012 vs. Brooklyn 93-84 W -7 W U 188 01/09/2012 at Brooklyn 106-101 W -5.5 L O 178.5 12/30/2011 vs. Brooklyn 105-98 W -11.5 L O 177.5 12/27/2011 at Brooklyn 106-70 W -4.5 W U 177 03/26/2011 vs. Brooklyn 98-87 W -9.5 W U 186.5 12/19/2010 at Brooklyn 82-89 L -3 L U 184 12/07/2010 vs. Brooklyn 116-101 W -6 W O 185.5 11/23/2010 at Brooklyn 101-107 L -3 L O 190.5 03/16/2010 at Brooklyn 108-84 W -6.5 W U 195.5 01/06/2010 vs. Brooklyn 119-89 W -14 W O 199.5 12/13/2009 vs. Brooklyn 130-107 W -12.5 W O 196 01/30/2009 vs. Brooklyn 105-88 W -7.5 W U 197

Through 2009 no repeat losses. Might that help Boston playing at home on a fairly good day?

[tuck321]

I have bet the Spurs and am fairly sure I will be on Toronto. Need to sleep now.

[GoIrish!]

Taking Boston -4..2U....pierce will play

[GoIrish!]

lockin in on Golden St -2.5 2U.....home court advantage should show true here

[GoIrish!]

anyone have any thoughts on Nets..i seen line is going up, i have had a real tough time on how to read this team..i would like to think they should win at home by more than 6 to washington

[gynecologist]

I normally don't bet nets games

[raems]

Don't see any reason to believe the Spurs stop womping on teams tonight, team like theirs uses the upcoming days off/game against OKC as motivation to take care of business quickly against an overmatched opponent that has one NBA player on its bench.

Houston/GS totals were 218ish when they played just a few weeks ago, this is a major adjustment. Like that betonline opened a 228 yesterday, also like that it has been bet down from 224.5. Both teams off an under too which is nice for over backers.

[tuck321]

Nets Washington is a spot where both teams are looking ahead. Suns clear look ahead to Houston at home next day. The almost total lack of effort in their game vs Toronto argues though that they had no interest in that out of conference game and intend to play in both games. Unlikely to play either game currently.

[divol]

I don't think that Nets in look ahead. Wizards won them the last game they played, Nets feel that suddenly, they can finish both 2nd and 7th just as easily and they got only 8 home games and 13 road games left, so they must win all the home games and do something on the road as well...

[gynecologist]

Bobcats +4.5 first quarter?

Any thoughts on this?

[GoIrish!]

makes me nervous, but i like this bet better than the bobcats on the game

[divol]

NBA BASKETBALL BASKETBALL - FRI 3/8
GAME				HANDICAP	MONEY LINE	TOTAL POINTS	MORE
Fri 3/8	801	Indiana Pacers		-9.5 2.000		Over 187.5 1.952
04:05 PM	802	Orlando Magic		+9.5 1.909		Under 187.5 1.952
Fri 3/8	803	Oklahoma City Thunder		-14 1.917		Over 206 1.952
04:05 PM	804	Charlotte Bobcats		+14 1.990		Under 206 1.952
Fri 3/8	805	Atlanta Hawks		+4 1.952		Over 188 1.952
05:00 PM	806	Boston Celtics		-4 1.952		Under 188 1.952
Fri 3/8	807	Washington Wizards		+5.5 1.962		Over 183 1.952
04:35 PM	808	Brooklyn Nets		-5.5 1.943		Under 183 1.952
Fri 3/8	815	Philadelphia 76ers		+13 1.952		Over 194 1.952
05:05 PM	816	Miami Heat		-13 1.952		Under 194 1.952
Fri 3/8	817	Portland Trail Blazers		+11.5 2.000		Over 201.5 1.952
05:35 PM	818	San Antonio Spurs		-11.5 1.909		Under 201.5 1.952
Fri 3/8	819	Phoenix Suns		+6.5 1.935		Over 207.5 1.971
07:05 PM	820	Sacramento Kings		-6.5 1.971		Under 207.5 1.935
Fri 3/8	821	Toronto Raptors		+7 2.020		Over 206.5 1.952
07:35 PM	822	Los Angeles Lakers		-7 1.885		Under 206.5 1.952
Fri 3/8	823	Houston Rockets		+2.5 1.952		Over 224.5 1.952
07:35 PM	824	Golden State Warriors		-2.5 1.952		Under 224.5 1.952

[divol]

Placed the current lines...

So far, really really like Boston and Under there.
Also like GSW and Nets - obvious reasons here I guess...

Game in Chicago should be really interesting.

Dallas suddenly still within playoff reach, especially if they win tonight and Rockets or Jazz lose. Should win Detroit that never had problems tanking in the last third of the season. Still not sure if I want to lay 3.5 points on the road with them.

[GoIrish!]

the tide has to change sometime for nets..buy low sell high

Brooklyn is 2-4 SU in its last 6 games

Brooklyn is 2-4 ATS in its last 6 games

Brooklyn is 2-4-1 SU in its last 7 games ,

[GoIrish!]

i guess same can be said of washington...but they are just a sell all the time

The total has gone UNDER in 5 of Washington's last 5 games

Washington is 1-4 ATS in its last 5 games

Washington is 5-20 SU in its last 25 games on the road

The total has gone UNDER in 5 of Washington's last 5 games on the road

[divol]

Wizards got nothing to play for, Nets got everything to play for.
They got a game against the Hawks tomorrow on the road, so they must win or else, a loss to the Hawks and they can find themselves in the 5th place, just one win above Boston and Chicago...

[nbafan88]

NBA - 3/8/2013				3/8/2013
	3/08 7:00 PM 801 Indiana Pacers 802 Orlando Magic	60% 40%	63% 37%	34% 66%		-9 186.5	-9-109 189.5o-104	-9.5 189.5	-9.5 189.5	-9 189.5	-9-105/+103 189.5	-9.5 189.5	-9.5 189.5	-9 189.5
	3/08 7:00 PM 803 Oklahoma City Thunder 804 Charlotte Bobcats	72% 28%	43% 57%	55% 45%		-14 206	-15-106 202u-101	-15 201.5	-14.5 202	-15 202	-15 202o-106/+104	-15 202.5	-15 202	-15 202
	3/08 7:30 PM 807 Washington Wizards 808 Brooklyn Nets	43% 57%	13% 87%	50% 50%		184 -5.5	182.5o-103 -6	182 -5.5	182.5 -5.5	182.5 -6	182.5u-101/+100 -6+100/+100	182 -6	182 -5.5	182 -6
	3/08 7:30 PM 809 Memphis Grizzlies 810 Cleveland Cavaliers	77% 23%	70% 30%	37% 63%		-3.5 189	-5.5+100 184u-110	-5.5 183.5	-5.5 183.5	-5 183.5	-5.5+104/-105 184u-108/+105	-5 184	-5.5 183.5	-5 183.5
	3/08 7:30 PM 811 Dallas Mavericks 812 Detroit Pistons	81% 19%	86% 14%	54% 46%		-3.5 200	-4 200u-110	-3.5 200	-4 199.5	-4 199.5	-4 200u-104/+102	-4 200	-3.5 199.5	-4 199.5
	3/08 8:00 PM 813 Utah Jazz 814 Chicago Bulls	29% 71%	14% 86%	34% 66%		185 -4	185o-102 -4-106	185 -4	185 -4-105	185 -4	185.5u-107/+102 -4+100/+100	185 -4	185.5 -4	185 -4
	3/08 8:00 PM 815 Philadelphia 76ers 816 Miami Heat	31% 69%	45% 55%	54% 46%		194 -13.5	195 -13.5+102	195 -13	194 -13.5-105	195 -13	195 -13.5	194 -13.5	195 -13	195 -13
	3/08 8:00 PM 805 Atlanta Hawks 806 Boston Celtics	40% 60%	26% 74%	45% 55%		188 -5	188.5o-110 -4-102	188.5 -4	188.5 -4.5	189 -4	188.5o-107/+102 -4-103/-103	188.5 -4	188.5 -4	188.5 -4
	3/08 8:30 PM 817 Portland Trail Blazers 818 San Antonio Spurs	44% 56%	35% 65%	68% 32%		201 -11.5	201.5o-102 -11.5-104	201.5 -11.5	201.5 -11.5	201.5 -11.5	201.5u-105/+100 -11.5	202 -11.5	201 -11.5	201.5 -11.5
	3/08 10:00 PM 819 Phoenix Suns 820 Sacramento Kings	47% 53%	62% 38%	54% 46%		207.5 -5.5	209u-103 -7.5+102	209 -7	209 -7.5	209 -7	209o-102/-103 -7.5+104/+104	209 -7.5	209 -7	209 -7.5
	3/08 10:30 PM 821 Toronto Raptors 822 Los Angeles Lakers	45% 55%	12% 88%	73% 27%		206.5 -7	207 -7.5-110	207 -7.5	207 -7.5	207 -8	207 -7.5-111/-111	207.5 -7.5	207.5 -8	207 -8
	3/08 10:30 PM 823 Houston Rockets 824 Golden State Warriors	54% 46%	55% 45%	74% 26%		224.5 -2	223 -2-103	223 -2	222.5 -1.5	223 -

[nbafan88]

SPAM

Charlotte Bobcats +14
Since 2002 all road favorites that won previous meeting by 45 or more while scoring 105 or more, lost both SU (0-10) and ATS (0-10). Its never easy to play on the road the day after playing in New York, and OKC also played Lakers three days ago. The upcoming schedule for OKC is not going to be easy either.

[nbafan88]

Wizards got nothing to play for, Nets got everything to play for.
They got a game against the Hawks tomorrow on the road, so they must win or else, a loss to the Hawks and they can find themselves in the 5th place, just one win above Boston and Chicago...

With all due respect I really don't think this is what goes thru their minds.

[divol]

I'm sure 99% that this is the case.
I have known many pro players (in Israel, but logic is the same). When you know that you must get as many wins as you can and you got few very difficult games ahead of you and now you have more or less an easy game, you first of all think that you must win this one, because you will be in trouble otherwise.
What is the logic to overlook the Wizards and lose somehow?

[nbafan88]

oh no i never said they were looking to overlook the wiz, no way that is the case

i just dont think the nets are saying "we better win tonight because if we lose tomorrow we are gonna be in 5th place"

[nbafan88]

HH is on the rockets...

I think its a game to completely avoid.

[braves]

is Hh a winner, what is her record over the years..

[GoIrish!]

HH is on the rockets...

I think its a game to completely avoid.

who the hell is hh?

[braves]

hungry hippo

[GoIrish!]

braves..whatever happened to santacapper?

[braves]

he is still here posting