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    but he's black...

    that's enough for a lot of people to call someone a scrambling qb

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    He wasn't a runner at WVU but he clearly has the speed to do it if they decide to put him in a system where it's necessary.
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    Look at Fat Andy just chomping away. Haha. God bless you, people of KC

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    Stewart Bradley is a FA!!!!
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    So is Daunta Robinson.

    He is welcome in Philly or Cleveland. Like right now.

    =)

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    oh man JP is alive?


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    Quote Originally Posted by J Galt View Post
    Look at Fat Andy just chomping away. Haha. God bless you, people of KC
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Public View Post
    So is Daunta Robinson.

    He is welcome in Philly or Cleveland. Like right now.

    =)
    Or one of ur other fave NFL teams?
    Sign anywhere daunta! I'm sure Joe will have rooting interest!

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    Looks like Joekel might be available now that Albert has been franchised by KC

    Some people like Fisher better though...or even the kid from Oklahoma
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    It's really not complicated that I have two NFL teams. Truly, it's far more complicated for others than it is for me.

    I heard Eskin today on the radio—in Vegas, which was weird.

    Anyway, he did his best 'There is no way Namdi is with the Birds unless hell freezes over and dogs and cats start humping in the streets' bit.

    It really was the first time in weeks I thought Namdi might be staying. Ha.

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    So now they're saying joeckel might be off the table since KC cut winston

    but they're also saying that KC likes fisher....

    and that we like Winston....
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    Fuck that. For all the things NFL player personnel folks do wrong, one thing they appear to be good at is assessing when players are on their decline. How many guys have been cut or traded for parts who were past their prime but the general public just didn't know it? Dumbavan, B Dawkins, Nnamdi, Willie McGinest, Demetress Bell, Jeff Saturday are a few that come to mind. KC cut him for a reason, and it wasn't because he had a terrible contract (it was pretty reasonable actually). No thanks.
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    Seems like.its typical NFL overthinking shit. Now some have joeckel falling. Why?
    If he is there at 4 the birds better grab him. U go from a shitty OL last season to a pretty solid OL if Peters is 80% of what he was.

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    Mayock has bumped EJ Manual up to his #2 QB behind Geno

    Supposedly the kid from AZ was real impressive in his pro day today as well
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    Don't worry about a qb dude..
    Dont force shit that ain't there

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    Eagles free agent targets: Smith, Goldson, Cook would fit

    March 8, 2013, 11:15 am









    Free agency doesn’t technically start until 4 p.m. Tuesday but teams can begin conversations with agents at midnight Saturday, the start of the three-day “legal tampering” window that the NFL recently implemented.

    The Eagles aren’t expected to make big splashes in the free-agent waters, but that shouldn’t be discouraging. They haven’t exactly fared well with free agency over the past few years and have discussed going back to the basics by building through the draft.

    But they won’t be stagnant either. With a secondary badly in need of an overhaul and their movement toward a spread offense, the Eagles will first look to fill some holes by shopping selectively in an open market with more than 100 free agents.

    Here’s our breakdown of some free agents that the Eagles are either known to be targeting or would make sense for them to sign:

    Defense

    Sean Smith, CB, Dolphins
    As we’ve reported, the Eagles have Smith on their radar and would like to bring him in at the right price. Smith, who turns 26 in July, is considered one of the market’s better corners and will have other suitors. He hasn’t made a Pro Bowl but is a strong, physical defensive back (6-3, 218) who can man the outside and move inside against tight ends. He’s looking to play in an aggressive scheme similar to Seattle’s, so expect the Niners, Chiefs, Bucs and Redskins to show interest.

    Dashon Goldson, S, 49ers
    We don’t know if the Eagles plan to pursue the two-time Pro Bowl safety, but it would be logical given their glaring holes at safety and the 28-year-old Goldson’s connection to Eagles new VP of player personnel Tom Gamble, a former Niners front office exec. Problem is, Goldson will likely command a hefty paycheck that could back the Eagles off. The Birds are said to be cautious about repeating their 2011 free-agent mishaps, so it’s unlikely they’d bring in both Smith and Goldson. One of them, perhaps. Both, not likely.

    William Moore, S, Falcons
    Moore may very well be the top defensive back on the open market. And that may very well be why he doesn’t end up in South Philly. Just like with Goldson, Moore is likely to score a big paycheck, which could force the Eagles to look elsewhere in free agency or the draft. Moore, 27, can play center field and inside the box. He has 11 career picks (four of which came last season) and five forced fumbles. Interestingly, he’s represented by agent Ben Dogra, who also reps Goldson and Nnamdi Asomugha. It’s gonna take major dough to sign him.

    Brent Grimes, CB, Falcons
    He was one of the game’s best corners until tearing his Achilles last season, not long after turning 29. He’s a Philly kid and could probably help the Eagles, even if he’s lost a step from surgery and age. If anything, those two factors -- coupled with the number of good corners in the draft -- could shrink the market for him and make Grimes a feasible, worthwhile target. Grimes, a former Shippensburg standout who went undrafted, has 13 career interceptions and made the Pro Bowl in 2010. Not sure the Eagles are looking for someone on the downside of his career after the Nnamdi blow-up.

    Ricky Jean-Francois, NT, 49ers
    An underrated, versatile lineman, Jean Francois is exactly what the Eagles need -- a natural nose guard to anchor the middle of their 3-4 defense who can also move around and play the end positions. Jean-Francois, just 26, is an excellent run stuffer and would fill an immediate hole. He also lacks the big name to command top dollar, so the Eagles could probably land him without breaking the bank. But they’ll have competition. The defending Super Bowl champion Ravens are reportedly interested, as are the Packers.

    Derek Cox, CB, Jaguars
    If the Eagles aren’t fond of spending big money on Smith, they could turn to Cox, who won’t be as coveted but might have equal upside. Talent is less of an issue for the 26-year-old Cox than durability. The 6-foot-1, 180-pound corner hasn’t played 16 games since his rookie year in 2009 and played just 18 over the past two seasons. This should lower his price tag but also make him highly risky. When healthy, he’s immensely productive. He’s had three four-interception seasons in his four years.

    Brice McCain, CB, Texans
    If the Eagles intend to move promising second-year corner Brandon Boykin outside, they’ll need someone to play the all-important slot corner position. McCain is perfect for this role. The 26-year-old, who was a sixth-round pick out of Utah (same school as Smith) in 2009, struggles on the outside but was Houston’s best interior corner defender. Houston has a truckload of players to re-sign and might not be able to retain Mccain. There was some buzz at the Combine that the Eagles were eyeing him.

    Rashad Johnson, S, Cardinals
    The former SEC Defensive Player of the Year at Alabama emerged as one of Arizona’s best special teams players and is said to have suitors on the open market, including the Eagles. He’s a No. 3 safety, but the Birds are in no position to turn their noses at anyone who can play the position. He’s only 6-feet tall (and probably shorter) and 200 pounds, so there are questions about his ability to be a starter, but the Cards are hoping to bring him back. Don’t be surprised if Cleveland, with former Cards defensive coordinator Ray Horton doing the same job there, makes a run.

    Glover Quin, S, Texans
    All signs seem to indicate Houston re-signing Quin, who just turned 27 and led the Texans in tackles. Plenty of teams, including the Jets, would be interested in having him, so once again, the idea of a bidding war makes him less likely to end up in Philly.

    Laron Landry S, Jets
    The Eagles should have signed him last year. Now that he’s coming off a Pro Bowl season, he’ll look for good money. The hunch here is that the Eagles look elsewhere.

    Offense
    Danny Amendola, WR, Rams
    Why do the Eagles need another shrimpy wideout when they already have D-Jax, Jeremy Maclin and Damaris Johnson? Isn’t Jason Avant good enough in the slot? Try to avoid conventional wisdom as we have no idea what the new regime’s plans are for current personnel. We do know Chip Kelly likes a spread offense and Amendola, who has two seasons of 60-plus receptions, could be his version of Wes Welker. We also know Amendola is on the team’s free-agent radar and that he was on their practice squad in 2009 until then-Rams head coach Pat Shurmur signed him. Shurmur is now the Eagles’ offensive coordinator.

    Jared Cook, TE, Titans
    There’s no better spread offense tight end threat on the market than Cook, who caught 131 passes in his four-year Titans career and lined up in the slot more than he did with his hand in the dirt. The problem, again, is money and competition. Cook wants receiver-type money and the Eagles are being selectively careful in how they approach free agency. The Bears are reportedly targeting Cook, who will likely have several teams after him, which will only inflate his price tag.

    James Casey, FB/TE, Texans
    Versatility is key for Kelly’s offense. Casey, who can play fullback, tight end and H-back, comes off his most productive season. He caught a personal-best 34 passes for 340 yards and scored three touchdowns. He’s also a good blocker. Other than second-year pro Emil Igwenagu, the Eagles don’t have someone with Casey’s wide-ranging skill set.

    Dustin Keller, TE, Jets
    Keller’s precipitous dip in production to 28 catches in 2012 after 65 in 2011 is probably more traceable to the Jets’ quarterback problems than Keller’s own decline. He has very good hands, superb quickness and isn’t an established blocker, which makes him tailor made for an up-tempo spread scheme. The Eagles have sought tight end upgrades even before they hired Kelly, so don’t be shocked if they sniff around Keller.
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    I like Sean Smith. He can play.
    hope birds target him

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    Time for the annual "List of guys I really really want in Free Agency who I didnt know existed 2 weeks ago"

    1. Dashon Goldson
    2. Sean Smith
    3. Jared Cook
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    Cheat Sheet: 25 Free Agents the Eagles Could Pursue

    Posted by Sheil Kapadia on March 11, 2013 at 12:45 pm | 0 Comments


    On Tuesday at 4 p.m., the NFL offseason will kick into high gear with the start of free agency.

    Teams around the league will make moves based on the following factors: need, age, injury history and value. The Eagles are currently $34.2 million under the cap, and after last year’s 4-12 season, there are plenty of holes to fill.

    Look for Howie Roseman, Chip Kelly and company to aggressively target young options – specifically in the secondary.

    Keeping that in mind, here is a whittled down cheat sheet with 25 players who could be on the Eagles’ radar. Obviously, the Eagles are not going to sign all 25 guys, but this should serve as a good starting point in the days ahead.

    These are in no particular order and are broken up by position with height, weight and age in parentheses.

    CORNERBACKS


    Sean Smith, Dolphins (6-3/218/25)
    -One point that Roseman has hammered home in the past couple months is that Kelly has specific requirements (height, weight, speed) he’s looking for at each position. Roseman didn’t want to offer up exactly what those requirements are, but considering Smith’s size, athleticism and skill set, it’s no surprise that he’s already been linked to the Eagles. The potential issue is there could be a big market for Smith, and while he’s an attractive option, he has been inconsistent. If the Eagles believe Smith can be a perennial Pro Bowler with the right coaching, they could be willing to spend big money to land him.

    Derek Cox, Jaguars (6-1/195/26)
    - Like Smith, Cox has size, is young and possesses an attractive skill set. The issue with him has been injuries. Cox has missed 17 games the last three seasons and fought hamstring and back issues in 2012. But if the bidding for Smith gets out of hand, the Eagles could look in Cox’s direction.

    Keenan Lewis, Steelers (6-0/208/26)
    – According to Peter King of SI.com, Lewis is drawing quite a bit of interest as an under-the-radar option. He’s only been a full-time starter for one season, but Lewis has good size and led the NFL with 16 passes defensed last year, per Pro Football Focus.

    Greg Toler, Cardinals (6-0/192/28)
    – Here’s more of an under-the-radar option. Toler was a fourth-round pick by Arizona in 2009. And he spent his first two seasons playing for new Eagles defensive coordinator Billy Davis. Remember, the Birds could very well be looking at a complete overhaul of their secondary. In other words, don’t be surprised if they add multiple corners in free agency.

    Antoine Cason, Chargers (6-1/195/26) –
    The former first-round pick did not live up to his potential in San Diego, but he could present a nice value option. Cason is young, has size and has never missed a game because of injury.

    Bradley Fletcher, Rams (6-0/200/26)
    – As you can see, there are quite a few cornerback options between 25 and 28. Fletcher has only started eight games the past two seasons, but like many of the others on this list, he’s young and has good size.

    SAFETIES


    Dashon Goldson, 49ers (6-2/200/28)
    – Roseman has talked quite a bit this offseason about the Eagles’ difficulties in identifying talent at safety. For that reason, I fully expect them to add a known commodity in free agency. And Goldson will likely be at the top of their list. He’s made the Pro Bowl the last two seasons and has only missed two games since 2009. Safety is a need position around the league, but the Eagles will know Goldson’s strengths and weaknesses as well as anybody, now that Tom Gamble is in the fold. The bidding could get serious, given the market, but look for the Eagles to be involved.

    Glover Quin, Texans (6-0/207/27)
    – According to reports, Houston is very interested in bringing Quin back, but a deal hasn’t gotten done yet. He’s a converted corner with a versatile skill set. If the Eagles pass on Goldson, they could very well turn their attention to Quin.

    Louis Delmas, Lions (5-11/202/25) –
    The question is not production, but health, with Delmas. He’s still young, but the former second-round pick has missed 13 of 32 games the last two seasons. If the market is cool, the Eagles could take a calculated risk on his upside.

    LaRon Landry, Jets (6-0/220/28) –
    We know the Eagles have had interest in him in the past. Landry got a “prove-it” deal from the Jets last year, played all 16 games and made the Pro Bowl. But that means he’ll likely want to cash in this offseason.

    OUTSIDE LINEBACKERS


    Connor Barwin, Texans (6-4/268/26)
    – With the Eagles expected to move towards a 3-4 or 4-3 under, Barwin could be a fit. He was an every-down player for the Texans last season, staying on the field for over 94 percent of their defensive snaps, per Pro Football Focus. The former second-round pick (2009) saw his sacks drop from 11.5 in 2011 to just three last year. But he added 14 QB hits and 26 hurries, per PFF. Barwin has shown the ability to drop back into coverage too.

    Victor Butler, Cowboys (6-2/245/25) –
    If the market heats up for guys like Barwin and Baltimore’s Paul Kruger, Butler could be a nice value play. He was stuck behind Anthony Spencer in Dallas, only playing 28.2 percent of the defensive snaps, but could be a nice option at SAM if the Eagles go to a 4-3 under.

    Note: You’ll notice that I left Kruger out. The guess here is that the bidding for him will stretch beyond what the Eagles perceive his value to be.


    DEFENSIVE LINEMEN


    Ricky Jean-Francois, 49ers (6-3/295/26)
    – According to the Sacramento Bee, the Eagles have already expressed interest in Jean-Francois. The versatile defensive lineman only played 25.6 percent of San Francisco’s snaps last year, according to PFF, but he could line up in a variety of places – most notably at defensive end in a 3-4. Once again, the Eagles have the Tom Gamble connection with Jean-Francois.

    Jason Jones, Seahawks (6-5/276/26)
    – You’ll notice that length and versatility are themes with this group. Jones has both qualities, and he’s young. The Eagles have parted ways with Jason Babin, Cullen Jenkins, Mike Patterson and Darryl Tapp (assuming he’s not re-signed) from last year’s rotation. And remember, there’s a chance they could be looking to build a defense that resembles (schematically) the one Jones played in last year with the Seahawks.

    Desmond Bryant, Raiders (6-6/311/27)
    – Again, length and versatility. Bryant played defensive tackle in Oakland’s 4-3 last season, but he could be a nice option to play the 5-technique (between the tackle and tight end) in a 3-4.

    Alan Branch, Seahawks (6-6/325/28) –
    The former second-round pick (2007) didn’t do much with the Cardinals in his first four seasons, but he had success in Seattle in 2011 and 2012. You won’t find 6-6 nose tackles around the league, but Branch could be in the mix as an interior lineman. It’s worth noting that he too played under Davis in 2009 and 2010.

    Terrance Knighton, Jaguars (6-3/330/26)
    – The man they call “Pot Roast” has the size to play nose tackle and is young. The problem? The production and consistency haven’t always been there for the Temple product. If the Eagles think they can uncover the potential from the former third-round pick, he could return to Philadelphia.

    Isaac Sopoaga, 49ers (6-2/330/31) –
    He’s on the wrong side of 30, but if the Eagles are looking for a short-term fix at nose tackle, Sopoaga could fit the bill. Once again, there is the built-in Tom Gamble connection. Sopoaga only played 32.2 percent of the 49ers’ snaps last year and would be strictly a first- and second-down player.

    Roy Miller, Bucs (6-2/310/25)
    -He would be a younger option at nose tackle. Like Sopoaga, Miller would be a two-down player and doesn’t bring much as a pass-rusher. But for the right price, signing Miller could make sense for the Eagles.

    OFFENSIVE LINEMEN


    Eric Winston, Chiefs (6-7/302/29)
    – Les Bowen of the Daily News reported that the Eagles have shown interest in the right tackle. He could step in and take over for Todd Herremans, who could then move back in to guard. A lot depends on how effective Herremans, Jason Kelce and Jason Peters are coming off of injuries, but on paper, that could be an elite run-blocking unit.

    Jake Long, Dolphins (6-7/319/27)
    -He’s probably a longshot, but I’m not ready to rule Long out completely. The two big factors to consider are Long’s medical history and the market. He’s only 27, but has missed six games the past two seasons. If the market isn’t what Long might expect it to be, perhaps the Eagles could get involved, plug him in at right tackle and move Herremans inside. Long is a four-time Pro Bowler.

    Louis Vasquez, Chargers (6-5/335/25) –
    As of yesterday, the Chargers had yet to make Vasquez an offer, according to the San Diego Union Tribune. To be honest, I’m not sure how Vasquez would fit schematically, but on paper, the right guard could give the Eagles a nice, young piece on the interior of their offensive line. I didn’t include Buffalo’s Andy Levitre on this list because I figured he will command a large paycheck. That might end up being the case for Vasquez too though.

    TIGHT ENDS

    Jared Cook, Titans (6-5/248/25) – He fits all the measurables: young, fast and athletic. I made the case for Cook this morning. Don’t think of him as Brent Celek’s replacement, but rather a slot receiver (with 4.50 speed). There’s no doubt in my mind that the Eagles will show interest, but according to Adam Caplan, between eight and 10 teams could be in the mix for Cook’s services.

    James Casey, Texans (6-3/240/28)
    – If the Eagles are looking for versatility on offense, Casey could be a nice option. He can serve as a lead blocker in the run game and a pass-catcher as well. Casey had 34 receptions for 330 yards and three touchdowns last season.

    Dustin Keller, Jets (6-2/250/28) –
    If Kelly is seeking a tight end who can make plays downfield, and the Eagles can’t snag Cook, Keller might be the next best option. He played in only eight games last season, but had 65 catches for 815 yards in 2011. That included 12 grabs of 20+ yards.

    Players who missed the cut:
    Giants safety Kenny Phillips, Falcons cornerback Brent Grimes, Bucs cornerback E.J. Biggers, Lions cornerback Chris Houston, Jets defensive lineman Mike DeVito, Lions defensive tackle Sammie Lee Hill, Colts nose tackle Antonio Johnson, Chiefs defensive lineman Glenn Dorsey.
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    Well...free agency will be a complete failure this year

    Tim McManus@Tim_McManus Also hearing that Eagles will not pursue Goldson or Sean Smith.
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    Ricky Jean Francois is good. I hope we get him. Be a good add for any team at an attractive price
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    Liking the eagles signings.
    Casey will fit nicely with chip Kelly.

    Take a flyer on Chung at safety. Can't get any worse there

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    Philadelphia Eagles@Eagles #Eagles agree to terms with S Kenny Phillips (1-year deal) and CB Cary Williams (3-year deal).
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    Adam Schefter@AdamSchefter Eagles announced they've reached a six-year deal with former Texans LB Connor Barwin.
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    damn Barwin, nice sign!

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    Maybe that takes Dion Jordan off the table for you guys at 4. One of Chip's guys though so who knows. I think I would go Millner anyways. Guy has shutdown corner written all over him for the next 7+ years.

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    I think Milliner is the one guy that is off the board after these moves

    Think theyll take one of:

    Geno Smith
    Dion Jordan
    Luke Joeckel
    Shariff Floyd
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    If I was a Philly fan, I would be stoked with either Joeckel or Floyd. Think those 2 guys end up being the premier players of this draft along with Millner. I dont see any way possible that they would take Geno. Now a days, if you take a QB that high you almost have to start him, and thats not happening with Vick there for 1 more season.

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    Don'[t like the Barwin signing, he had a down year last year. I do like that they got him on the cheap (really a 2 year, $8 million deal), but I'm worried with the huge dip in production from 2011 to 2012.

    Btw if the Eagles draft Geno Smith I will be done with them forever. I will not go from Andy Reid to an incompetent guy who can only throw WR bubble screens and crumples at the first sign of a blitz.

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    Read barwin lined up over TE last yr(not as comfortable) and that could have contributed to lower sacks. Year he had big numbers he was.on other side. Which I.assume is where.birds put him.

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    Vick on Foles running read option: "I mean, he can run. He has two legs."

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    @AndersonColt: Vick just beat Shady in a 40 yard race. @MikeVick

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    That does surprise me. Vick has superhuman athletic ability. Too bad he has subhuman intelligence..

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    Jeremy Maclin tears ACL......done for the 2013 season.

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    And Riley Cooper is a racist.



    We can't even blame Fat Andy for this. Fuck.

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    Cooper was evidently "likes to fight guy" at this concert. Here he is in the parking lot getting into with a couple bros. Take note of the jorts


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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Public View Post
    We can't even blame Fat Andy for this. Fuck.
    McNabb resigning?

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