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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrute View Post
    Very odd esp considering their horrible season. I guess Mark thinks it was the medias fault

    Nothing to do with 3-9...

    Just with the Sex Assault case plus numerous other incidents this winter. Then some other suspensions not talked about and AFTER the spring game another sex assault case came up this past week.

    He wouldn't talk for a few months.

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    Buechele looks pretty good in the Texas Spring game

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    I hope Harris does well at UNC. He has skills....no leadership and no brains though.
    good kid though, and I wish him the best and maybe he can play in the NFL as a something or other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by M.O.T View Post
    Buechele looks pretty good in the Texas Spring game
    What's the offense look like
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    Quote Originally Posted by twinkie13 View Post
    What's the offense look like
    Looked really good. Buechele looked very comfortable running it. There were lot of guys running open against the 2's/3s in secondary but he hit them and they have a ton of huge WR. I think a minimum of 6 contributors next year that will be at least 6'3. Collin Johnson staked his flag in the ground as a player to watch in big 12 and nationally, 6'6 WR that is nimble and has great hands. One of more impressive WR I've watch this fall out of 20 or so games so far. Defense could be one of the most improved units in all of CFB. Only had 1 scholly RB healthy, True Frosh Toneil Carter and he looked really good - I never thought highly of him as a recruit. Top 20 team this year - natty contender in 18 and 19.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonK View Post
    Looked really good. Buechele looked very comfortable running it. There were lot of guys running open against the 2's/3s in secondary but he hit them and they have a ton of huge WR. I think a minimum of 6 contributors next year that will be at least 6'3. Collin Johnson staked his flag in the ground as a player to watch in big 12 and nationally, 6'6 WR that is nimble and has great hands. One of more impressive WR I've watch this fall out of 20 or so games so far. Defense could be one of the most improved units in all of CFB. Only had 1 scholly RB healthy, True Frosh Toneil Carter and he looked really good - I never thought highly of him as a recruit. Top 20 team this year - natty contender in 18 and 19.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonK View Post
    Looked really good. Buechele looked very comfortable running it. There were lot of guys running open against the 2's/3s in secondary but he hit them and they have a ton of huge WR. I think a minimum of 6 contributors next year that will be at least 6'3. Collin Johnson staked his flag in the ground as a player to watch in big 12 and nationally, 6'6 WR that is nimble and has great hands. One of more impressive WR I've watch this fall out of 20 or so games so far. Defense could be one of the most improved units in all of CFB. Only had 1 scholly RB healthy, True Frosh Toneil Carter and he looked really good - I never thought highly of him as a recruit. Top 20 team this year - natty contender in 18 and 19.
    huh?

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    The more I look at it the more I see some value on UGA at 40-1. IMO they have the most talent in the East, they don't have a terrible draw from the West and their two most important contributors (HC and QB) are now in year 2 of the program. They need to win in Knoxville and in Jacksonville. If they do that and split on the road against ND and Auburn then they're very likely playing in the SEC title game with 1-loss.

    My issues is that I don't trust their offensive staff to maximize their offensive talent. I live about an hour away from Athens, surrounded by UGA folks, and I've heard that Frohm has had an impact on teaching Eason to watch film. That tells me two things: Eason isn't the most focused person in the world and their offensive staff isn't exactly elite. Again that's all rumor but it's from UGA fans so not sure why they would make that up. I certainly don't think UGA wins the title but I could definitely see them playing for a spot in the playoff come championship weekend

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    Quote Originally Posted by twinkie13 View Post
    huh?

    B12?
    Only serious contender is oklahoma. Beat them and the rest of the B12 schedule should be a formality. USC might have something to say when they meet in 2018, but LSU should be a walkover for them in 2019
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    Lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonK View Post
    https://athlonsports.com/college-foo...-rankings-2017

    I respect anyone's work who attempts to undertake as extensive a list as this - I've learned in doing my own positional rankings it's hard as hell if you really spend time thinking about and working on it. That being said - there are some guys ranked towards the bottom that I think are way off:

    118. Keon Howard, Southern Miss
    116. Gardner Minshew, East Carolina
    115. David Cornwell, Nevada
    99. De’Andre Johnson, FAU
    97. Dallas Davis, South Alabama
    96. Conner Manning, Georgia State
    76. Drew Barker, Kentucky
    68. Andrew Ford, UMass

    Those are all guys that I think can be top half of the table QB this season. Manning, Barker and Ford are all NFL potential players - esp my boy Ford.

    Like to see the love for 3 of my dudes in a row:

    24. Jake Bentley, South Carolina
    23. Shea Patterson, Ole Miss
    22. Justin Herbert, Oregon

    I know you'll agree with me on this, duds - Jalen Hurts ahead of Austin Allen is criminal
    Dook's graduated QB transferred to ECU for his fun year of QB'ing so he'll be starting over Minshew. Wasn't the case when you posted this, though.

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    Default Updated-- 4/25 Lines

    College Football Spread
    Stanford vs Rice - Sydney, Australia
    game must be played before August 30th for action
    Fri 8/25 101 Stanford -33 -120
    12:00PM 102 Rice +33 -120
    Portland State at BYU
    game must be played before August 30th for action
    Sat 8/26 103 Portland State +31 -120
    12:00PM 104 BYU -31 -120
    South Florida at San Jose State
    game must be played before August 30th for action
    Sat 8/26 105 South Florida -14 -120
    12:00PM 106 San Jose State +14 -120
    Ohio State at Indiana
    game must be played before September 6th for action
    Thu 8/31 111 Ohio State -20 -120
    12:00PM 112 Indiana +20 -120
    Washington U at Rutgers
    game must be played before September 6th for action
    Fri 9/1 161 Washington U -30½ -120
    12:00PM 162 Rutgers +30½ -120
    Florida State vs Alabama - Atlanta, GA
    game must be played before September 6th for action
    Sat 9/2 201 Florida State +7½ -110
    12:00PM 202 Alabama -7½ -110
    Virginia Tech vs West Virginia - Landover, MD
    game must be played before September 6th for action
    Sun 9/3 203 Virginia Tech -2½ -115
    7:30PM 204 West Virginia +2½ -105
    NC State vs South Carolina - Charlotte, NC
    game must be played before September 6th for action
    Sat 9/2 205 NC State -3½ -120
    12:00PM 206 South Carolina +3½ -120
    Louisville vs Purdue - Indianapolis, IN
    game must be played before September 6th for action
    Sat 9/2 207 Louisville -20½ -120
    12:00PM 208 Purdue +20½ -120
    Colorado State vs Colorado - Denver, CO
    game must be played before September 6th for action
    Sat 9/2 209 Colorado State +7 -120
    12:00PM 210 Colorado -7 -120
    BYU vs LSU - Houston, TX
    game must be played before September 6th for action
    Sat 9/2 211 BYU +14 -110
    12:00PM 212 LSU -14 -110
    Florida vs Michigan - Arlington, TX
    game must be played before September 6th for action
    Sat 9/2 213 Florida +6 -110
    12:00PM 214 Michigan -6 -110
    Texas A&M at UCLA
    game must be played before September 6th for action
    Sat 9/2 215 Texas A&M +2 -110
    12:00PM 216 UCLA -2 -110
    Temple at Notre Dame
    game must be played before September 6th for action
    Sat 9/2 217 Temple +15½ -120
    12:00PM 218 Notre Dame -15½ -120
    Maryland at Texas
    game must be played before September 6th for action
    Sat 9/2 219 Maryland +16 -120
    12:00PM 220 Texas -16 -120
    California at North Carolina
    game must be played before September 6th for action
    Sat 9/2 221 California +7½ -120
    12:00PM 222 North Carolina -7½ -120
    Tennessee vs Georgia Tech - Atlanta, GA
    game must be played before September 6th for action
    Mon 9/4 411 Tennessee -6 -110
    12:00PM 412 Georgia Tech +6 -110

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    Will likely be on WVU at that number

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    Here are the lines that moved at least 1' points since I last copy n pasted over 5 weeks ago...


    BYU 29 to 31

    South Florida 11.5 to 14

    Ohio State 18.5 to 20

    Alabama 6 to 7.5

    NC State 7 to 3.5

    Notre Dame 10.5 to 15.5

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    I went through and tried to grab everything I'm on so far:

    2017 Heisman:
    LSU RB Derrius Guice 18/1 (.25 unit)
    OSU QB Mason Rudolph 20/1 (.25 unit)
    PSU QB Trace McSorley 25/1 (.25 unit)
    USF QB Quentin Flowers 40/1 (.10 unit)
    AUB QB Jarrett Stidham 45/1 (.10 unit)
    MAR RB Ty Johnson 50/1 (.10 unit)
    TCU RB Sewo Olonilua 50/1 (.05 unit)

    WVU QB Will Grier 60/1 (.10 unit)
    ND QB Brandon Wimbush 87/1 (.20 unit) (Avg price)
    ORE QB Justin Herbert 125/1 (.35 unit) (Avg price)

    OM QB Shea Patterson 150/1 (.10 unit)


    2017 Nat'l Title Winner:

    FSU +700 (.25 unit)

    Louisville +1900 (.25 unit)
    Penn State +3100 (.10 unit)
    Auburn +4000 (.10 unit)
    Ok State +4500 (.10 unit)

    Washington +5125 (.50 unit) avg price
    WVU +6000 (.10 unit)
    Virginia Tech +6600 (.10 unit)
    Miami +8000 (.10 unit)
    Wisconsin +8000 (.20 unit)

    Stanford +13000(.35 unit) avg price
    Pitt +30000 (.05 unit)
    USCe +30000 (.05 unit)

    Georgia Tech +50000 (.05 unit)


    Wisconsin to win B1G +700
    NC State to win ACC +2000 (.25 unit)

    Week 0:
    USF -9/9.5/10 -120 v. SJSU

    Week 1:
    Colorado St +6.5/7-120 v. Colorado (N)
    Florida +6 v. Michigan (N)
    USCe +7.5 -120 v. NC State (N)
    GT +6 -120 v. Tennessee (N)

    Haven't been doing the same spring write-ups on here. I've watched and reviewed about 35 games so far but been more active on twitter with my thoughts and less on here. Doing some fantasy football writing now. Will prob be around more after draft - hope everybody had good Easter

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    Got some more action in:

    South Carolina to win SEC +8000 (.05 unit)
    Duke to win ACC +5500 (.05 unit)
    Memphis to win Nat'l Title +10000 (.05 unit)

    Michigan Under 10 wins -175 (1.5 units)
    Duke Over 5.5 wins -115 (1 unit)
    NC State Over 7.5 wins -120 (1 unit)
    Wisconsin Over 9.5 wins -125 (1 unit)

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    Give me your game by game W/L for both the bigten bets. Just interested for notes comparison.

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    Wisconsin:

    Utah St: W
    FAU: W
    @BYU: W (Why would any team ever schedule this game? only bad can come of Provo trips)
    BYE
    NW: W
    @Neb: W
    Purdue: W
    Maryland: W
    @Illinois: W
    @Indiana: W
    Iowa: W
    Michigan: W
    @Minn: W

    Final 3 games are prob the toughest. I think Michigan should be a team that gets better as year goes on and maybe Peters wins job by then too. If Minn can stay healthy, specifically on the OL, that's a funky little trophy game to finish. I think Wisconsin has a very good chance of making playoff. I favor them in all 12, as of now.

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    Michigan:

    Florida(N): L
    Cinci: W
    AFA: W
    @Purdue: W
    BYE
    Mich St: W
    @Indiana: W
    @Penn St: L
    Rutgers: W
    Minnesota: W
    @Maryland: W
    @Wisconsin: L
    Ohio St: L

    I think even if you win the opener, and I am doubtful, there are only 9 wins left. Like I said before, team should get better as year progresses so maybe that means a win against Wisconsin but I think beating tOSU this year is highly unlikely. I watched the tOSU and Mich spring games back to back and there is a major gulf in where these teams are at and I think tOSU should improve a lot through year, particularly on the back end defensively and the downfield passing game appears to be much better, as much as it can be with Barrett under center. Speaking of "bring in the backup", Dwayne Haskins is going be a beast - I'm so pumped for him. Think he and Peters will have a couple nice duels in 18/19

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    Got couple more openers:

    UMass +3.5​ v. Hawaii
    Ga Southern +36 v. Auburn (2 units)

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    2017 Heisman:

    LSU RB Derrius Guice 18/1 (.25 unit)
    OSU QB Mason Rudolph 20/1 (.25 unit)
    PSU QB Trace McSorley 25/1 (.25 unit)
    USF QB Quentin Flowers 40/1 (.10 unit)
    AUB QB Jarrett Stidham 45/1 (.10 unit)
    MAR RB Ty Johnson 50/1 (.10 unit)
    TCU RB Sewo Olonilua 50/1 (.05 unit)
    WVU QB Will Grier 60/1 (.10 unit)
    ND QB Brandon Wimbush 87/1 (.20 unit) (Avg price)
    ORE QB Justin Herbert 125/1 (.35 unit) (Avg price)
    OM QB Shea Patterson 150/1 (.10 unit)


    2017 Nat'l Title Winner:

    FSU +700 (.25 unit)
    Louisville +1900 (.25 unit)
    Penn State +3100 (.10 unit)
    Auburn +4000 (.10 unit)
    Ok State +4500 (.10 unit)
    Washington +5125 (.50 unit) avg price
    WVU +6000 (.10 unit)
    Virginia Tech +6600 (.10 unit)
    Miami +8000 (.10 unit)
    Wisconsin +8000 (.20 unit)
    Stanford +13000(.35 unit) avg price
    Pitt +30000 (.05 unit)
    USCe +30000 (.05 unit)
    Georgia Tech +50000 (.05 unit)
    Memphis +10000 (.05 unit)

    Conf Futures:

    Wisconsin to win B1G +700 (1 unit)
    NC State to win ACC +2000 (.25 unit)
    South Carolina to win SEC +8000 (.05 unit)
    Duke to win ACC +5500 (.05 unit)

    RSW:

    Michigan Under 10 wins -175 (1.5 units)
    Duke Over 5.5 wins -115 (1 unit)
    NC State Over 7.5 wins -120 (1 unit)
    Wisconsin Over 9.5 wins -125 (1 unit)

    Week 0:

    UMass +3.5 v. Hawaii (1 unit)
    USF -9/9.5/10 -120 v. SJSU (3 units)

    Week 1:

    Colorado St +6.5/7-120 v. Colorado (N) (2 units)
    Florida +6 v. Michigan (N) (1 unit)
    Ga Southern +36 v. Auburn (2 units)
    USCe +7.5 -120 v. NC State (N) (1 unit)
    GT +6 -120 v. Tennessee (N) (1 unit)

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    How in the ever living fuck is Scary gonna win the SEC?
    i assume this bet is you think they can be sneaky and win the SEC LEAST and get some hedge bet in the ship game, maybe?

    i totally think they can win the East.....FLA always tough, but they just aren't recruiting like they used to. I assume they go with Franks at QB(who I liked a bunch coming out HS.....concerning he couldn't beat out those other scrubs last year, even as a true frosh)

    Tenny should have some talent in some places, WR and elsewhere but the coach sucks and he could get aced mid year.
    UGA.....ehhhh..things are on the up, but not this year

    how is Vandy? And UK could do some
    work this year, yea?
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    Quote Originally Posted by twinkie13 View Post
    How in the ever living fuck is Scary gonna win the SEC?
    i assume this bet is you think they can be sneaky and win the SEC LEAST and get some hedge bet in the ship game, maybe?

    i totally think they can win the East.....FLA always tough, but they just aren't recruiting like they used to. I assume they go with Franks at QB(who I liked a bunch coming out HS.....concerning he couldn't beat out those other scrubs last year, even as a true frosh)

    Tenny should have some talent in some places, WR and elsewhere but the coach sucks and he could get aced mid year.
    UGA.....ehhhh..things are on the up, but not this year

    how is Vandy? And UK could do some
    work this year, yea?
    USCe: I think if they are good enough to win the East they will have a shot against Bama/LSU/Auburn but in all reality it would likely be a scenario where I would strongly consider hedging.

    FLA: Ya, Franks will be the guy. If you remember him in the 2016 spring game, 3 of his first 4 passes were INT's and he finished like 5-11. He was not good. Fast forward to this spring game and he really looked like the guy I though he would be coming out. Ideal size, moves better than he should being as big as he is and has massive arm. Will likely have some growing pains and will need to tighten up accuracy stuff but he looks like a good one for them.

    Tenny has some talent. I think they have two really talented QB, talent on the OL, John Kelly at RB is a dark horse to win SEC rushing title and Ty Chandler is supposed to be the truth as TrFr. Jennings will be alpha outside and Wolf can catch passes. Talent in middle and back end of the defense but lotta questions for me on the DL. I've actually warmed up to Tenny some the more I've watched and read but I don't think they will win SECE.

    UGA should win it. Defense will be nails, everybody but Mo Smith on D is back and they are recruiting much better since Smart took over. They have a TrFr safety, LeCounte, who I think is a star in the making. Two NFL QBs, 5 NFL RB, big time NFL TE, at least 2 NFL WR - I think Wims is finally gonna breakout as a senior and TrFr Holloman is gonna be a star. Both of them looked great in spring game. They gotta get functional OL play, they were so bad LY. Defense should be good enough that if they just hand it off to any of the horses and complete 12-15 balls a game they can be really good. Tough OOC slate but only true roadies in conf are at Tenn and Auburn which is cross division. I can't wait till they play Notre Dame Week 2 that will be really fun.

    Vandy is Vandy.

    Kentucky has some sleeper potential. Benny Snell is one of my fav RB in CFB and King and the new guy Rose make up a really diversely skilled backfield. They are long and athletic in the secondary on defense and have couple NFL LB. I thin in order for them to really be a true dark horse Drew Barker needs to win the QB job and stay healthy. Johnson is a decent fill-in but they have some nice perimeter options, esp newcomers Bowden and Thomas and have few guys back from LY that were productive. I think they make a bowl again.

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    Uga is just an enigma for me
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    One more RSW:

    Mississippi State Over 5.5 wins -115 (1 unit)

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    12 point faves vs tamu

    how bad are the aggies gonna be!?
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    Thanks for posting 'em A.T.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonK View Post
    I went through and tried to grab everything I'm on so far:

    2017 Heisman:
    LSU RB Derrius Guice 18/1 (.25 unit)
    OSU QB Mason Rudolph 20/1 (.25 unit)
    PSU QB Trace McSorley 25/1 (.25 unit)
    USF QB Quentin Flowers 40/1 (.10 unit)
    AUB QB Jarrett Stidham 45/1 (.10 unit)
    MAR RB Ty Johnson 50/1 (.10 unit)
    TCU RB Sewo Olonilua 50/1 (.05 unit)

    WVU QB Will Grier 60/1 (.10 unit)
    ND QB Brandon Wimbush 87/1 (.20 unit) (Avg price)
    ORE QB Justin Herbert 125/1 (.35 unit) (Avg price)

    OM QB Shea Patterson 150/1 (.10 unit)


    2017 Nat'l Title Winner:

    FSU +700 (.25 unit)

    Louisville +1900 (.25 unit)
    Penn State +3100 (.10 unit)
    Auburn +4000 (.10 unit)
    Ok State +4500 (.10 unit)

    Washington +5125 (.50 unit) avg price
    WVU +6000 (.10 unit)
    Virginia Tech +6600 (.10 unit)
    Miami +8000 (.10 unit)
    Wisconsin +8000 (.20 unit)

    Stanford +13000(.35 unit) avg price
    Pitt +30000 (.05 unit)
    USCe +30000 (.05 unit)

    Georgia Tech +50000 (.05 unit)


    Wisconsin to win B1G +700
    NC State to win ACC +2000 (.25 unit)

    Week 0:
    USF -9/9.5/10 -120 v. SJSU

    Week 1:
    Colorado St +6.5/7-120 v. Colorado (N)
    Florida +6 v. Michigan (N)
    USCe +7.5 -120 v. NC State (N)
    GT +6 -120 v. Tennessee (N)

    Haven't been doing the same spring write-ups on here. I've watched and reviewed about 35 games so far but been more active on twitter with my thoughts and less on here. Doing some fantasy football writing now. Will prob be around more after draft - hope everybody had good Easter
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    Gonna be some huge middle opportunities. FSU under a TD vs UL is an absolute banger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kobe911 View Post
    Sorry if I missed it, but if you don't mind what's your twitter handle?
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    Quote Originally Posted by B.A.R. View Post
    Thanks for posting 'em A.T.
    Yep, thanks. Going to see if one of my locals will let me get on these now, he did with the regular season wins.

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    Was able to get them with local but he made me pay price, -120. I could wait for offshore and maybe get -110 but elected not to on these.

    GOY:


    Week 2
    Pitt +19 v Penn St -120 (1 unit)
    Oregon -4 v. Nebraska -120 (2 units)


    Week 3
    Louisville -2 v. Clemson -120 (1 unit)
    Oregon -1 v. Wyoming -120 (3 units)


    Week 4
    Arkansas +10 v aTM -120 (1 unit)


    Week 5
    Boise St +6 v. BYU -120 (1 unit)
    AFA +15.5 v Navy -120 (1 unit)


    Week 10
    South Carolina +14 v. UGA -120 (1 unit)


    Week 11
    Utah +21 v. Washington -120 (1 unit)


    Week 12
    Oregon -2 v. Oregon St -120 (1 unit)

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    Also, made my biggest week 1 bet so far on what has to be the most asinine line ever created. That's coming from a guy who is very high on Umass.

    Coastal Carolina +31 v. UMass (5 units)

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    USC -12 vs Texas seems rather large.

    What's Herman's record as a dog vs ranked teams again?

    Some knowledgeable UT folks on this board...anyone wanna weigh in?

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    Andrews is a PSU guy. Can't help but think that influenced some of his lines at least a little bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AliShaheed View Post
    USC -12 vs Texas seems rather large.

    What's Herman's record as a dog vs ranked teams again?

    Some knowledgeable UT folks on this board...anyone wanna weigh in?
    Not a UT guy but.. 13-1 since 2011, 11-0 since 2012 if you count his time as OC or 5-0 as OC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AliShaheed View Post
    Andrews is a PSU guy. Can't help but think that influenced some of his lines at least a little bit.
    Good point. I was def surprised by that Pitt number and Michigan also. I was really tempted to take the 14 w Mich. I would in a heart beat if I knew Peters would be starting by then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonK View Post
    Not a UT guy but.. 13-1 since 2011, 11-0 since 2012 if you count his time as OC or 5-0 as OC.
    A lot of straight up wins mixed in there as well...

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