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    Default ***NFC Wildcard Weekend Discussion***

    Sat 1/7 103 Detroit Lions +305 o42 -110
    8:15PM 104 Seattle Seahawks -365 u42 -110
    Sun 1/8 107 New York Giants +180 o44 -110
    4:40PM 108 Green Bay Packers -220 u44 -110

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    Looking at Detroit

    SEA for a playoff game is tough tough..I've seen it lol

    But that is some points there, and not sold on the Hags

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    SEA is flawed, but i'm not sure DET is the team to knock them off (can definitely cover).

    Other game is gonna be a doozy and either can beat DAL next week. Don't think DAL is a fraud, but they could be one-and-done quite easily

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    Grabbed Seattle at 7 -115.

    League's worst pass defense off so many consecutive important games, now a short week at Seattle. Not the team that disrupts Seattle's passing game, and the Saturday night crowd with the sport's biggest home field advantage matters too. Just don't expect the Lions to hang for 60 minutes. I expect Seattle to have its warts pop up in January, just not this soon.

    Grabbed Fins at 10 - - too many points for a team that just got its ass whupped, big teaching moment for a very good coach in Gase. They don't really have anything to lose here, meanwhile Pittsburgh the trendy "other" team in the AFC.

    Grabbed Giants at 4.5 -- too many points for the best defense in the tournament, also with threats at receiver against a bum ass Packers secondary. Always at risk for an Eli Manning bi-annual 3 interception special, but I'll take my chances with this D.

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    I initially look at Detroit as the side, but yes I'm not sure their D can keep them in the game enough to cover. Seattle does not impress me at all, but against this D they may be ok.
    Seattles strength on D is their run D, something the Lions don't have anyway.


    Good grabs with the Seattle and Giants #'s Raems...did you hear there is talk of Tannehill coming back? I'd rather have Moore in there than him

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tito View Post
    I initially look at Detroit as the side, but yes I'm not sure their D can keep them in the game enough to cover. Seattle does not impress me at all, but against this D they may be ok.
    Seattles strength on D is their run D, something the Lions don't have anyway.


    Good grabs with the Seattle and Giants #'s Raems...did you hear there is talk of Tannehill coming back? I'd rather have Moore in there than him
    My feel on it is that Gase won't put him out there. If Tanny does play, it means he's legitimately pretty healthy which is tough to expect one month off that injury.

    I just really like Gase, think he's a great motivator and puts his coaches and players in position to succeed. They just got outclassed by a Pats team focused on clinching the 1 seed, I think that's a nice wakeup call for them going into this road game as a 10 point dog. Miami does enough things reasonably well, and has enough high variance, game-changing playmakers to swing this spread their way. The whole nothing to lose angle is nice to have too, Miami's season is a 10/10 success regardless of Sunday's result and that'll have them playing loose. Meanwhile Pittsburgh's season is a failure if they don't get to the Super Bowl (that's what they believe in their building).

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    when was the last time the lions won a game in under 40 degrees weather?

    I just don't see it happening.... i didn't watch seattle at all the past three weeks... but talent wise, can you name me any position or part of the game where the lions have an advantage?
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    One of the little things that could play??

    http://www.seattletimes.com/sports/s...rain-vs-49ers/

    missing earl thomas is big to me, but maybe not as much to others

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    November 10 2015 @ cheese country. I think weather is the furthest factor in this contest. Lions 2nd half last 3 games being out scored 49-3. Teams Adjusting at half but same lions tune. Stafford still with finger issues. Our defense is in pieces. No one wants to step up and be a number 1 receiver. I see Detroit as a 1st half play but full game is Hags all day. Zenner will be the difference. If he can get going the Lions may cover but not win. Already played Seattle in 4 ML parlays. BOL
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    the Giants/Pack game is obv the most intriguing game of weekend..... Its going to come down to in my opinion who can run the ball better... obv Pack have to stop OBJ as he is big to gmen O ...cuz when he left game last week in 2nd half Gmen did nothing except that big pass to buddy to set up FG surprised with all the coverage OBJ gets Cruz n Shepard cant take adv of it more.... but who ever can get the running game going which is crucial to both teams success: Gb throwing deep to jordy and eli getting OBJ in space... The gmen have the best D in playoffs and are absolutely peaking at that side of ball.... i think 4 pts is hard to pass up i obv like rogers over eli but he is def going up against he tougher D and eil does tend to come up big in these kinda moments.....and i like my chances with OBJ vs pack secondary then jordy vs Gmen secondary and how healthy is cobb? GB def has been hottest team and looked the part going in but Gmen have been no slouch quietly playin great minus a thurs showing at philly and that D is something to reckon with and could be Diff in this game as GB D i dont think is anything special

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    ya that game will come down to Packers O Vs Gmen D..... if gmen D holds them to 17 or less they win if rodgers can get to 21-24 i think they win... giants OFFENSE isnt that great this yr and pack should be able limit them if they can go off that is the X factor too

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    public being all over lions scares the shit outta me

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    NYG@ GreenBay
    Road team has the best defense in the NFC (obv my opinion) and turnover prone QB so they will want to limit possessions overall, shorten the game against a high octane offense. If they can do that, it should be a close to the vest type game...problem is NYG can't run the ball and eat clock. This will likely be all about the defense for NYG...stay in the game and try to find a way to win it. If GB gets up a couple scores early, it could get ugly, but I don't think that happens. Real problem for NYG is they just can't eat clock with the running game, so GB should be in it and likely win (I think they're the best team inthe NFC). But under is where I lean to.

    Have since bet under big and also that rare combo of taking the favorite as well for less. Took it at 4 because I wanted the key number and saw that it was likely to move to 4.5. Will watch closely and possibly get out of GB at halftime if the opportunity is there. These are the two teams I wanted to bet on in the NFC and unfortunately they draw each other.

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    Running game has been bad for the Giants this year, but Paul Perkins is soming on, and looks pretty good. Hes wayy more effective than Rashad, but hes stilll getting a lot of carries and just not that effective. Hoping to hear they will be using him more, bc he really can break some

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    I kind of like Fondy's thoughts in another thread right after the Packers game ended. Over. Packers may have to get to 30 to win the game with the decimated secondary, easy to envision a few ways this game hits 50 no matter who wins. Eye on the weather, I guess, but I don't think it's much of a factor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tito View Post
    Running game has been bad for the Giants this year, but Paul Perkins is soming on, and looks pretty good. Hes wayy more effective than Rashad, but hes stilll getting a lot of carries and just not that effective. Hoping to hear they will be using him more, bc he really can break some
    yeah completely agree if the giants are serious about making a run they should make him the featured back. Jennings is done. He also barely played the first half of the year so he prob has fresher legs than most rbs in the playoffs right now.

    Having said that I am not sure anyone can stop GB right now

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    I just got back yesterday from Seattle and it was COLD. Low 20's and it snowed.

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    Like the Over in GB I think the best.

    Eli has won his last 7 games as an underdog in the playoffs...just not sure they can stop the Pack this time. They are red hot and Giants D is good, but not the pass rush like years past.

    But a big key is Perkins, if they let him start and run and keep Rashad to a minimum, I think they have a damn good chance. But you have to give him the ball.

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    Can't get past the fact that this will be the Giants 3rd straight road game, and to get to Houston they'll need to play in 5 straight on the road, winning the last 4. I'll be fading them at every opportunity. Rodgers is going to be a real tough out this year with Jordy back. Pack 27-17.

    Detroit has enough tools to hang with Seattle, but probably not beat them. Seahawks have been hot and cold since playing their asses off at Foxboro, mostly hot and home and bad on the road. Lions played three games outdoors and lost them all, played five playoff teams and lost them all. Why would this be any different? Seattle 27-20.

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    COBB BACK AND READY TO GO??? AND GB D doesnt scare anyone.... they sure havent been great... i just wonder if the play of Rodgers is clouding everyone judgement on the packers...... like how is that D gonna go in to ATL and beat them

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    THIS SIDE IS THE toughest to pick a winner to come out of..... as the 2 hottest teams and SB picks are playing each other in the first week...... that never happens... i do think its a ATL/GB NFC title game

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tito View Post
    Like the Over in GB I think the best.

    Eli has won his last 7 games as an underdog in the playoffs...just not sure they can stop the Pack this time. They are red hot and Giants D is good, but not the pass rush like years past.

    But a big key is Perkins, if they let him start and run and keep Rashad to a minimum, I think they have a damn good chance. But you have to give him the ball.
    The Giants run game looked solid against the Skins. Thing is, GB is actually good against the run - so it'll be interesting. The Giants D is stellar, but they're 23rd in the league against the pass - which doesn't bode well against Aaron Rodgers. And like you said, NY lacks a pass rush. Rodgers will have all day back there. GL this weekend!

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    For all, here's the forecast for Lambeau on Sunday;

    "Sunday is Game Day in Green Bay as the Packers take on the Giants. The high temperature will be near 10 with mostly sunny skies. Expect kickoff temperatures to be near that mark, but wind chills will make it feel like closer to zero or even a little below."
    Says the "lifelong" democrat who's voted GOP for the last 39 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hakan's Picks View Post
    The Giants run game looked solid against the Skins. Thing is, GB is actually good against the run - so it'll be interesting. The Giants D is stellar, but they're 23rd in the league against the pass - which doesn't bode well against Aaron Rodgers. And like you said, NY lacks a pass rush. Rodgers will have all day back there. GL this weekend!

    Thats the strength of the GB D,no doubt against the run. But if the Giants have that to keep them honest, will be huge. bc they will need it to keep w Rodgers. Thinking Over here...
    gl to you too hakan!

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    Giants +11/Lions +15.5 tease piece

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    Quote Originally Posted by inZane View Post
    For all, here's the forecast for Lambeau on Sunday;

    "Sunday is Game Day in Green Bay as the Packers take on the Giants. The high temperature will be near 10 with mostly sunny skies. Expect kickoff temperatures to be near that mark, but wind chills will make it feel like closer to zero or even a little below."
    Not much warmer in Pittsburgh on Sunday - high teens for the high.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Farm View Post
    November 10 2015 @ cheese country. I think weather is the furthest factor in this contest. Lions 2nd half last 3 games being out scored 49-3. Teams Adjusting at half but same lions tune. Stafford still with finger issues. Our defense is in pieces. No one wants to step up and be a number 1 receiver. I see Detroit as a 1st half play but full game is Hags all day. Zenner will be the difference. If he can get going the Lions may cover but not win. Already played Seattle in 4 ML parlays. BOL
    hope you're not relying on Zenner to win this game, the SEA rush D is the only thing I don't worry about on that team

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tito View Post
    Running game has been bad for the Giants this year, but Paul Perkins is soming on, and looks pretty good. Hes wayy more effective than Rashad, but hes stilll getting a lot of carries and just not that effective. Hoping to hear they will be using him more, bc he really can break some
    it hasn't been great, but i think it's been better than GB's even with Montgomery emerging lately

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hakan's Picks View Post
    The Giants run game looked solid against the Skins. Thing is, GB is actually good against the run - so it'll be interesting. The Giants D is stellar, but they're 23rd in the league against the pass - which doesn't bode well against Aaron Rodgers. And like you said, NY lacks a pass rush. Rodgers will have all day back there. GL this weekend!
    how much of that 23rd vs the pass is because their opponents give up on the run because they can't do it?

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    thinking out loud.............TAKING ATL to win the NFC all they have to do is win 1 home game most likely vs Seattle and there in title game would give great hedging opp...... either at home vs GB where game prob atl -3 or ATL at Dallas where dallas is prob -4 or so........ if they get GB at home u can take gb ML at + 130 prob and come out a winner or tru n middle with GB n pts...... if its dallas ull have to swallow some juice on the ML...... right now atl is +250 to win NFC................but $500 wins $1250........ but as long as atl wins div round u can virtually guarantee profit in the title game

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    I like that Nole..ATL looks good, but if they have to play outside, can't say I like them.

    The game in GB is interesting....does this feel like the Gmen SB runs of past? Two really hot teams, but hasn't Eli beaten GB there a couple times now in the playoffs? Gmen look decent getting 4' of it is still there..

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    Dallas will beat NYG, but not arod. They will smoke Atlanta. Period.
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    i just dont get how people so easily are writing the giants off.... better D and has the ingredients to hurt GB D which is spread u out and throw.... i agree Arod>eli but Eli no slouch and can win games for his team and has done it.......cold weather game gmen having better D this looks like a coin flip to me basically who breaks for his team odell or jordy... but see no reason why eli cant slice up gb secondary...... and other then that loss to philly it may havent looked as pretty as GB but there just as hot...... one team doing it with offense the other is doin it with D.........

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    now i dont see why dallas will beat atl or giants but not GB...........dallas as 1 seed prob has toughest road having to play giants or gb n them prob atl..... 2 best offenses

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    Detroit at Seattle

    Offensive Stat Comparison

    Stat DET SEA
    Yards/Play 5.5 5.6
    Points/Play 0.353 0.350
    Rush Play % 35.68% 39.82%
    Pass Play % 64.32% 60.18%
    Completion % 65.32% 64.90%
    3D Conv % 42.56% 38.16%
    RZ Scoring % 54.17% 46.43%

    Defensive Stat Comparison

    Stat DET SEA
    Opp Yards/Play 5.9 5.0
    Opp Points/Play 0.371 0.286
    Opp Completion % 72.68% 61.64%
    Opp 3D Conv % 45.45% 38.86%
    Opp RZ Scoring % 67.92% 56.52%

    Common Opponents (2016 Season)

    Detroit Results Seattle Results
    Opponent (Rank) Date H/A/N Result Date H/A/N Result
    Green Bay (9) 01/01 Home L by 7
    Green Bay (9) 09/25 Away L by 7
    Green Bay (9) 12/11 Away L by 28
    Philadelphia (12) 10/09 Home W by 1
    Philadelphia (12) 11/20 Home W by 11
    Los Angeles (30) 10/16 Home W by 3
    Los Angeles (30) 12/15 Home W by 21
    Los Angeles (30) 09/18 Away L by 6
    New Orleans (16) 12/04 Away W by 15
    New Orleans (16) 10/30 Away L by 5


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    NY Giants at Green Bay

    Offensive Stat Comparison

    Stat NYG GNB
    Yards/Play 5.2 5.7
    Points/Play 0.305 0.420
    Rush Play % 39.10% 36.35%
    Pass Play % 60.90% 63.65%
    Completion % 63.04% 65.00%
    3D Conv % 34.67% 46.67%
    RZ Scoring % 53.49% 60.61%

    Defensive Stat Comparison

    Stat NYG GNB
    Opp Yards/Play 5.1 5.9
    Opp Points/Play 0.267 0.393
    Opp Completion % 58.57% 64.80%
    Opp 3D Conv % 35.29% 41.21%
    Opp RZ Scoring % 39.53% 62.22%

    Common Opponents (2016 Season)

    NY Giants Results Green Bay Results
    Opponent (Rank) Date H/A/N Result Date H/A/N Result
    Dallas (5) 12/11 Home W by 3
    Dallas (5) 09/11 Away W by 1
    Dallas (5) 10/16 Home L by 14
    Washington (19) 01/01 Away W by 9
    Washington (19) 09/25 Home L by 2
    Washington (19) 11/20 Away L by 18
    Minnesota (15) 10/03 Away L by 14
    Minnesota (15) 12/24 Home W by 13
    Minnesota (15) 09/18 Away L by 3
    Philadelphia (12) 12/22 Away L by 5
    Philadelphia (12) 11/06 Home W by 5
    Philadelphia (12) 11/28 Away W by 14
    Chicago (29) 11/20 Home W by 6
    Chicago (29) 12/18 Away W by 3
    Chicago (29) 10/20 Home W by 16
    Detroit (24) 12/18 Home W by 11
    Detroit (24) 01/01 Away W by 7
    Detroit (24) 09/25 Home W by 7


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